Why They Are After T.B Joshua -Top Abuja Prophet, Brother Joshua Iginla
The truth is I have never met T. B. Joshua one-on-one. I have never been to Synagogue. I don’t even have any physical connection with him. I’m not a son or a follower of T. B. Joshua. I love what God is using him to do. I have no doubt that he is of God. But the truth is, he is just a friend, a brother in Christ and a colleague in ministry.
A lot of reports linked you to Prophet T. B. Joshua because of the similarity in your ministrations, what’s the link?
A lot of media houses have asked me a similar question. If I claim I don’t know him, it’s a lie. I have never seen him face-to-face or speak to him on phone. It was merely by watching his Emmanuel TV. It will be mad of me to criticize him. I know a lot of pastors sneak to his church but still deny him openly. If I had been a critic then and now that I minister with such grace and my hands are clean, I will not be bold to say this. Personally, I will say this; he is a genuine man of God. I have warned my members never to run down other men of God. [showads ad=GLO]
Most criticisms against him were done in envy, bitterness and politics in ministry. For instance, when my mentor, Bishop Idahosa died, some of his people I wanted to make mentors were demanding for money. [showads ad=GLO]
Sir, since Prophet T. B. Joshua is your friend, what’s your comment on the recent collapse of his church building which claimed several lives?
Some journalists have come to meet me and asked me questions about it or requested for my comment about the collapsed building. Let me open up for the first time. When our brother is under attack, we should not rejoice but join hands together to pray for him. I have not seen him in person. I am just doing what God has called me to do. [showads ad=GLO]
He is my brother in the ministry and I love what God is doing through him. People asked why this storm? The reason is that there is no genuine or mature prophet called of God that God won’t reveal what’s going to happen to him. And you can’t expect such a prophet to come on air and begin to say this is what will happen to my ministry. Rather, he will pray and speak to you in parables. Those lies by people on internet that he doesn’t know are not true. [showads ad=GLO]If you listened to his messages, you would know he was speaking in parables. The best thing we can do is to pray that it won’t happen. If prayer was not done, it is not what we are saying about SCOAN and Prophet T. B. Joshua that we will still be saying. I have heard other pastors clap and celebrate and I call that wickedness in ministry. Nobody prays for temptation.[showads ad=GLO]
Was Job not righteous and did he not have the fear of God? Yet the enemy struck all his property. It is only in Christianity that our brother would be under attack and rather than us to join hands and pray we are backstabbing him. Anybody that rejoices about his brother’s challenge now should remember he is not above temptation. [showads ad=GLO]I am already made as a person and my comment is not because I want popularity. I am famous already. My response is not because I need favour, I am favoured already. It’s not because I need his help because I am blessed already.
My reaction is, enough is enough of people rejoicing over a clergy when he is going through storm. All those saying all manner of wicked things especially among the body of Christ are demonic people.[showads ad=GLO]
Even if you don’t love what I am saying, I still have to say the honest truth from my heart. If I don’t stand up and say this, it means if I have my own challenges tomorrow, they will also criticise me. It’s only in Nigeria that another person would be under attack and they would be rejoicing when we are supposed to rise up, pray and stand by him. One blow for one is blow for all.[showads ad=GLO] I love army generals. They can’t see one of their own in trouble and won’t stand by him. It’s only among Christian generals that we rejoice when another is going through storm. It’s due to envy, jealousy and bitterness and hypocrisy in the ministry.
PDP has declared President Jonathan as their sole candidate in the forthcoming election and you have prophesied that Jonathan would win, what do you think the 2015 elections will give birth to?
I took my time to pray and talk to the Lord about 2015 because charity begins at home. If we continue to talk about the other nations, and we do not talk about our own, what is the evidence that God is talking to us? The 2015 elections is not all about winning, it is all about running an inclusive government that has to do with trying to pacify the opposition party because this is like a do-or-die affair, but the truth about the whole matter is that Jonathan is going to win the whole elections and there is no doubt about it. [showads ad=GLO]It is not because Jonathan is the perfect man but I think the unity of Nigeria is most important. I thank God for the opposition party because they are going to do well but they are not the dream party that God will raise to take the ‘baton’ from PDP. Indeed, time will come that PDP would crumble but it has not come to the time. For now, the years ahead would still be held by the same person in power. Another thing God told me is that, no matter how credible 2015 elections is, Jonathan should be ready for accusations and battles. But mark my word, he will emerge winner.[showads ad=GLO]
We have it on tape that during the vigil of December 31, 2013, you prophesied that in 2014, there would be an outbreak of a disease like Ebola virus. Here we are, it has come to pass. What is God saying about it and what is the way out? [showads ad=GLO]
I remember when I said that, people went on Facebook to criticize me saying what am I trying to say about a disease more dangerous than HIV? The prophetic words said, “Some people will have HIV and won’t be happy they have HIV and it is going to start from 2014 to 2020. It is going to claim millions of lives. “We have not actually seen the worst of Ebola virus. I see sometimes but I am afraid to say it so that people don’t think one is too negative but God revealed to us what is about to happen, so that we can warn His people so that they can get prepared for the danger that is ahead. This is not psychology. Nobody talked about Ebola virus many years ago and nobody was afraid of it. [showads ad=GLO]Why did it happen when God spoke about it? That is when you begin to understand there is nothing else but God. There is a link between the witchcraft coven and the marine world that lures people into hell and this is what we are seeing. I am not mincing words, but a lot of souls are going to die except we begin to understand that we need to turn to God. Prophetically, God showed me and I was afraid and I am sorry to say that, even men of God are going to be victims of this. He began to tell me that, “People who truly worship me will be revealed and those who do not truly worship me will be revealed” also. He told me that there would be something like a vaccine or hope that would come and it would be discovered by a group of scientists led by a white scientist with a bald head and this research would bring about 10 per cent hope not 100 per cent hope. At first, a noise would be heard saying, “There is hope” but the hope that they think is a cure is just a vaccine.[showads ad=GLO]
As a voice of God, for those who are scared about this, what is the way out?
The way out is to turn to God. There is something spiritual about the Ebola virus and the name Ebola is gotten from a river. Just as a group of scientists are putting their heads together, a group of men of God should assemble to pray for the world but I know it will be conquered.[showads ad=GLO] It will still become an issue, it will not be a stigma the way HIV is now. It will get to a time that people will live normal life out of it.
Two major national prophecies you gave and they have become quite sensational; former Governor Nyako and the crashed Air Force helicopter in Bama, Borno State. What do you think happened that despite your warning it came to pass?
Most times when people hear the prophets of God speaking to the world, they feel they are charlatans. Some people have a way of looking down on the prophetic word of God and I could remember before the helicopter crash and if you look at the fulfilled prophecy, it was more than three to four times that the prophetic words were echoed and warnings were given about how it could be averted. On our own side, we prayed about it and we also tried to pass messages to the relevant authorities and I felt a little bit unhappy because some of these prophecies that are negative can be averted if people can at least heed the voice of God. Some of the prophetic words in terms of the helicopter crash, I re-echoed and we prayed but the people concerned turned deaf ears to it. How would it not come to pass? It is part of the prayers I made that made that crash have survivors.
We discovered that, as early as 4 am, worshippers troop into this ministry and even to overflow. What is the secret of this massive explosion?
Nothing else than God and sometimes it is so funny when you look at where people park their cars and trek down to be part of the service. They line up at 4.30 to follow all the rigorous procedures. I will always say that where the carcasses are, there the eagles gather because God is actually doing wonders and we should give God praise for it. Some pastors are looking for members while others are even tired of the ones they have.
We learnt that due to this expansion in May, you decided to get another site that will accommodate this explosion and by November, the church anniversary will be done and most of your pastors are scared of the possibility because it is so capital-intensive?
I remember God made me to declare the prophetic word last November that we will have our eighth anniversary on our permanent land and when it got to April, we had not gotten a land and many people began to call but God did His wonders and a land came and what we are about to build is something out of this world, something that has not been seen in Nigeria. The church will have an escalator; it is going to be a masterpiece. Some people are already thinking whether it is a federal government project because of the proposed plan to build a 5-star hotel there, a wonderful restaurant and other establishments, schools, university and more.[showads ad=GLO]
How long will it take you to complete the permanent site and how will the funds come?
We are not under pressure to complete the new site. What we are praying for is time, not money. In fact, we have bought a generator to make sure that work goes on day and night just to meet up with the target. [showads ad=GLO]