Adeboye Attacks Oyakhilome
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Pastor Adeboye
The general overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of Nigeria, Pastor E. A. Adeboye, has reacted sharply to a shocking revelation by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of the Believers Love World, a.k.a. Christ Embassy, that masturbation was not a sin but a habit, which has reverberated on the internet including Youtube, with many people believing that the statement would draw different reactions from men of God in the coming days.
Pastor Adeboye while addressing the ministers and workers of the church in Jos, north central Nigeria on 11th May said: “The pastor of Christ Embassy was quoted by the press as saying there is nothing wrong with masturbation.
“I want to tell you that everything is wrong with masturbation, it is a sin against God and against human nature. Anybody that practises it will go to hell and it is a bad habit you must not get involved as a Christian or as a pastor or worker in the Redeemed Christian Church of God!
“It is a sin against God and your body is the temple of Holy Spirit, masturbating is a way of defiling the body (1 Cor. 3:16-18).”
The clergyman discouraged the members from such doctrine while admonishing them to be fervent with God and not to be carried away by every wind of doctrines.
The video available on Youtube shows Pastor Chris and another pastor of his church, Kwaku from Ghana, who asked Oyakhilome thus while preaching: “Pastor, how does one overcome masturbation?”
In response to his question, the clergyman, in the video believed to have been uploaded in 2011 but which has begun to spread like wildfire, said masturbation is a habit just like any other habit and that it is often misconstrued as a sin.
The reason you are thinking of stopping it is because you think it has become a habit for you… Masturbation is not more a habit than any other habit.
“So once you make up your mind that you want to break a particular habit, you just do it, you make up your mind… in fact the best way to break a habit is to replace it with another habit.
“There is one thing I would like to bring to your mind that may be of help to you because the reason you are thinking of stopping this is because of what you think it is,” he said.
Using illustration, he said that if Kwaku was in the habit of playing football, he would not be asking how he should stop it.
He said: “No matter how wrong you think this is in your mind, get this straight, in itself, it is not a sin against God,” emphasizing that as a result of this belief that it is a sin, Satan uses it to oppress people of God, “making them feel ineffective and inefficient in the things of God.”
He said for Christianity as a religion, this habit has nothing to do with God but a lot to do with the body of the person practising.
“Satan uses his power to accuse you… so if you don’t like it, stop it, but God’s got nothing to do with it. It is your own body.
“Masturbation is about you and your body. God is not offended by it, He is only offended by any habit that takes hold of your mind and if this takes hold of your mind and dominates your body, God is offended.”
As expected of controversies, the video has generated mixed opinions with some supporting the controversial preacher’s position on the matter, while others think the pastor is wrong.
Also reacting to Oyakhilome’s comment, the prelate of Methodist Church Nigeria, Dr. Ola Makinde said there was only one way of having sex permitted by God in the Bible, which is only through marriage.
“There is only one way of having sex in the Bible which is natural. Masturbation is unnatural and unethical. Whatever is unnatural and unethical is abomination. I leave him to his own opinion,” he said.
For Pastor Tunde Bakare of the Latter Rain Assembly, every believer must be able to subject his body to control because it could lead to something else.
Popular evangelist, Pastor Akin Fasawe said masturbation is a sin as stipulated in the Bible, saying that death was even recommended in the Bible for those who practised such things.
“Masturbation is a sin because when you masturbate, you will release. If the minister of God said masturbation is not a sin, he can easily tell his church that fornication is not a sin. The Bible recommends death in the Old Testament,” he stated.
Also reacting on the issue, majority of informed Nigerian readers indicated that they did not support Pastor Chris Oyakhilome’s view on masturbation through their comments on an earlier article on the Oyakhilome’s statements.
I knew it !!!
How can a man of God say this? Unbelievable !!!
Men of God are still humans and subject to errors. They don’t know it all. He is therefore entitled to make mistakes. He can learn from Pastor Adeboye’s views and correct himself. No single man of God have the entire answer. This is why we should pray for them a d correct one another in love and avoid criticisms to avoid reacting as the enemy would or else we are no different from him. God help us all. Amen
I give you high five for that
Its true they don’t know it all but if he knows he is not sure why will he come out openly to say this kind of heresy
He may have learn his lesson but what of the souls this false teaching has plunged deeper into this act and those who are languishing in hell right now……??
Yes, the attack is unnecessary, let Pastor Adeboye study God’s Word for accurate knowledge and not with a mind- set. The same way smoking is an habit so is masturbation! And the fact dat Pastor Chris said such, he was not justifyin it as a good habit: but for whoever has such habit would c clearer dat help is available and not live with the guilt and eternal condemnation.
dare u are lost, anybody practicing masturbation needs deliverance, pastor Chris is lost.
Pastor Chris is right. Adeboye can come and suck my father’s stinky balls. He’s crazy and stupid!
masturbation is a Sin and should not be practiced……and pls stop abusing my daddy pastor ea adeboye if not d anger of God will rest on dat person.
pls stop abusing daddy GO what right do you have to do that!, do not allows God’s wrath on you. Masturbation is a SIN! I don’t understand how somebody that fears God is trying to lead and encourage people to hell. from some of the comments we can see that most people do it. We need to pray for our pastors. Let us not be fooled by some of their comments. MASTURBATION IS A SIN!!! We pray God delivers those involved in it in JESUS NAME AMEN.
Watch the rubbish you say. Don’t talk anyhow against an anointed man of God. Masturbation is a sin. Period. If you do it, please stop. Thank you.
We are all Humans…
Those of u whose Job is nothing but to sit and criticize is no better.
Sam: u r the one who is realy lost. not a Man of God
Pastor Chris is 100% right. There is nothing like sin in this world. Then what did Jesus died for? Those opposing this pastor IS NOT BORN AGAIN. WE HAVE NOT EVEN STARTED WITH THE GRACE MESSAGES AND SOME OF YOU ARE ANGRY. GET READY BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO STONE US LIKE STEPHEN
Please God is not an author of confusion, approach matters concerning things of the spirit, don’t argue without studying,don’t judge except you’re more holy than Jesus,study to show yourself approved unto God,now the issue of masturbation can’t be clearly explained except by one who has practiced it in the past and was delivered, not by laying of hands but by the word of God that is sharper,piercing and dividing both joints and marrows,I personally was delivered from this habit,yes pastor Chris is correct it is an habit,but I don’t agree with the fact that he says it is not a sin,but you’re not under the law of sin to be disturbed about this you’re under the law of life in Christ Jesus,but to those struggling with masturbation, you can be free from it,here is my number 07063469938 message me on WhatsApp I will tell you how,it is a habit,you can unlearn it and live a life of freedom. It is a thing of the mind.
Pls pray more for God to show you the light, if its a habit like smoking why dont you do it in the open so everyone can see
sex with ur wife or hubby is sacred but is it done in public?
Thank you. Married couples have sex, why don’t they do it in public since it is permitted by God?
Well, when christians especially those who are supposed to show the light for others to see the right path, make such unbelievable mistakes publicly, it shows something is wrong.
I believe that the essence of the christian faith is to be christ like & what jesus said on a matter seals it all.
In the book of mathew 5:28, jesus said if any person lust after a women in his heart he has already committed adultery with her. Tell me, when people masturbate don’t they have any picture of the opposite sex in their mind? Definitely they do. & that makes it a sin. A sin because, jesus even said it again in mathew 15:19, that out of the heart proceeds adultery. & james 1:15 says these desires when conceived give births to sin. Guys, be careful, many men of God will only make the way for people to go to heaven, will not make it themselves. Jesus warned us about that. There is punishment for masturbation in the bible. As clearing stated in these books: exodus 20:17, deut 22:22.
Dr peter, u must have been practising it to know those that masturbates have d opposite sex in mind. Bunch of hypocrites 90% of those ranting are into the act.
In the old testament, Adultery and Fornication must be an “ACT” but in the new Testament, Jesus stretches this to include lustful thoughts and imaginations. The purpose of Masturbation cannot be achieved without at least flashes of erotic pictures in the mind. One must have to create sexual mental picture of the act in the mind with an imaginary fantacised figure for the act to be real enough to achieve sexual satisfaction(climax). It is this lust in the heart Jesus called fornication or adultery. To me just as sex is not a Sin on its own except done outside Marriage, so also Masturbation is not a Sin if the persons fantacises about his wife or Husband while doing it. So conclusively, Masturbation is NOT a sin on its own, it is the Fornication or adultery which is the Lust in it for someone that is not ur husband or wife that is the Sin. Based on this I think bth clergymen are considered correct.
d idn’t listen to pastor chris directly, preachers were busy
Quatin him, but I know He I s a great teacher with Great
with revelation teachin an preachin are not the same inside what he said they may not hear
What he did not say , The problem with christianity in Nigeria is
A matter of rightly dividin the word. I listen to joseph prince,
T L Osborn etc. All the thou shalt not has been canceld .Sin is no mor
A problem» for sin shall not have dominiOn over you 4 u are
Not under the law, pls help me to advice Nigerian PREACHERS
To listen more to TEACHERS b4 they continue Seed of
Biterness.
Excellent, Nosa
Jesus’ love for all lets everyone know that He didn’t come to count men’s sins against them, so when He said he who looked upon a woman to lust after her, had sinned already in his heart; He said so to let those who accuse others of adultery wen caught in the very act, to cease from doing so because they too must have committed the same sin of adultery in their mind: and by so doing would be also subject to condemnation by death under the same law they claim to so uphold.
Rightly said Nosa, masturbation in marriage is no sin, but outs side of marriage is sin.I.e thinking of either wife or husband while doing so,especially when they might have travelled for a long journey;instead of allowing self to lead them into temptation of formication.
All have to understand that anything done outside of its God given purpose is sin&when done for the purposes of God, it isn’t sin,whatever it may be:
For it is not what enters a man that defileth him, but what proceedeth out of him that defiles him.
If I may add to what Pastor Chris has said in all boldness to say, I here say that any lesbian regardless of their number, who come together to practise intermingling with each other outside a marriage to a single man, whatever they do is sin; but as many of them who perform the same act of lesbianism within a single marriage to a single man, they all with the man have not sinned
Its obvious you practice it
What if when you are masturbating with picture of your wife in mind?
Sam are u mad..how dear u talk 2 my daddy lik dat do u knw who he is……i wish i am der wif u now wn PASTOR E.A ADEBOYE is talking shut up…clawn
Take it or leave it, i will not hide the truth from you, but to the extent i have know God and His will, ”You will go to hell not because you sin, but because you are ignoramus and built on the knowledge and claim of others and allow yourself to be decieved by another all for the integrity and image the person claims”. Do’nt try to defend because he is your G.O. and you ‘re in the ministry or because you ‘re a victim of the Act. One thing you must know is that the Bible cannot be interpreted philosophically, head knowledge is exempted in the things of God, don’t think his academical degree has given him room to be wiser and spiritualised than those that started the journey b4 him, you must be aware that the End of DAYS is near. God is not interested in your reputations or theological/philosophical knowledge over His work, neither the millions of people you have in your single service but he who He Send He equip. For this Jesus said, when you go to preach, bother not what you say, for the Holy Spirit will teach you and speak through you. What re we now hearing, are you not now seeing and hearing people teaching out of what they asume the Bible is saying no longer what the Spirit of God is telling them. JESUS said ‘that which (truth) you have, hold it well, less it be taken from you’. I STILL WANT TO USE THIS MEDIUM TO TELL YOU THAT JESUS LOVE YOU, HE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR SOUL. He is still ready to teach you His word through the Holy Spirit that dwells in you. Please i beg you go closser to your Bible and study to get approve of yourself, God will not justify anyone because another gave them wrong doctrine. GOD IS INRESPECTER OF ANY MAN. Fight your own fight to win heaven not what others teaches you, on your own search whether it is the truth, it might be the fact but not the truth, why can’t you go for the truth my dear.. Let he that have ear, hear what the lord said to the church!
May God bless you for your comment Michael. The bible says then we no longer be infant tossed back and forth by every wave and blown here and there by every wind of teaching. The Thessalonians received the message of Paul with great eagerness and examined the scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. The best we can do in this our Journey is to study the word of God and know the truth for our selves. The only one way to escape all these confusions and arguments on what is sinful or not sinful dear brethren is to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the mind of God to us in all things that pertain to our lives here on this earth, know the word, “work out your salvation with fear (reverence) and trembling” only your knowledge of God’s unadulterated word in your spirit can keep you secure, unshakable and safe in the midst of so much doctrinal confusion. Looking up to Jesus the Author and Finisher of our faith. Man, no matter who he is, is not infallible, JESUS alone is!!! God bless us all.
So l like to steal, is it a habit like masturbation?
Stealin involves someone else, masturbation is juz by urself with urself nd to urself.
I am not condoning masturbation but don’t think it could send any one to hell. Haven said that, a Christian who spends time in prayer will not have time for or even such urge because he/she will be more spiritually than anarlly minded
many have become followers of Pastors than Jesus. Even when you are mastbating you know you are rebelling against God. All that was said it doesnt matter will matter on that day.
Some things are not judged by humans’ wisdom; it takes higher knowledge and revelation. He never encouraged masturbation! He made it known; it is an habit that one could come out of. You can come out of any habit that is not pleasing by the power of Christ in you. You can live a higher life beyond your left and right.You will get it one day!
My people perish for lack of Knowledge… Even spiritually, education is important, not criticizing adeboye oh, or calling him an illiterate. But pastor chris neva said masturbation is good, dis is why english is important, clearly, he said masturbation is an habit jst as smoking and drinking is an habit.. So why is pastor adeboye acting up? Dis problem clearly is as a result of lack of understanding.
@Comfort, if you understand anything about what Oyakhilome is all about, you will run for your life if you attend his church. He is in the business of subtle codes, and it takes a discerning spirit to decode his mission, unfortunately, most of his members dont know any better, I am a pre-Oyakhilome xtian, so I know the difference, and I remember we were always receiving revelations that satan was sending out his own pastors… and that we should pray against his plan, I didnt believe the revelation at the time, because i was a young xtian and thought any one that got born again would go to heaven….so why would satan raise pastor to get people to heaven?…..doesnt make sense! but looking back, I wished I had prayed, maybe all this rubbish wouldnt be happening now. “Pastors” like him have only one mission, ‘Preach an alternative Gospel’….. that way he steers people slightly off the right track in such a way that they wont notice, so that THEY KEEP RUNNING THEIR XTIAN RACE ON THE WRONG TRACK, we they get to the finish line…they get disqualified!!!! The day I gave up on Oyaks ( as we fondly called him then) was when he…on National TV…. practically endorsed fornication in his church! How you will ask me….by condemning the actions of some elders that reported such atrocities to him…..PUBLICLY!….on National T.V!….what is the subtle message in that?…….”I dont care if the youths are banging themselves to smithereens…in this church, you are free to fulfill all the desires of your flesh…..and in case there are still any real Christians in this church…..you better convert……or hit the road!!!! He understands psychology, and he’s using it to re-write the gospel, Jesus warned us about people like him, ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing’. We are already in the age of the Anti-Christ, the real meaning of ‘Anti-Christ’ is not ‘Against-Christ’ as the literary interpretation suggests, it actually means ‘Counterfeit Christ’ just like counterfeit currency……It looks like the real deal….but it’s not….. it’s just that majority of us are blind to these things, we have been thoroughly brainwashed by these agents of Lucifer in pastors suits. that’s the reason why Jesus warned us seriously to ‘Shine our eyes’! so don’t let anybody use semantics to fool you, anything that leads to sin is a sin, by Gods standards….you don’t have to sleep with a woman before committing fornication….neither do you have to shoot someone before committing murder, God deals more with what goes on in your mind, so how on earth can you masturbate without sinning against God? That is a lie from the pit of hell, you need to fantasize about it to do it, as long as you engage your imagination to do it……God is interested, Period! because that is God’s realm of operation, it is from there He connects which the physical world.
@biddy,u r very wise & discerning.Pst chris has opened his yansh.he is a fake!one of satan’s pastors.it is only people dat are destined for hellfire dat will agree with his comment dat masturbation is not a sin.our body is God’s temple & d bible says “he dat defiles God’s temple shall be destroyed”.when u masturbate,u’re defiling HIS temple.dont be deceived,MASTURBATION IS A SIN!
How can u call a Man Of God uneducated while u writing a broken english? Masturbation is a sin and a wage of sin is death. U dont have 2 justify this
i have studied the scripture in depth on this matter and i will categorically say that masturbation is a SINFUL/UNCLEAN/IMPURE/FILTHY habit. the word of God is so clear on this!
to begin with, i DO NOT think Pst Chris knows exactly what sin is! he seem to have stumbled into the deceitfulness of sin using the case of eating bread and stealing bread as an illustration simply because masturbation do not involve two people but just you, yourself and you. i dont want to arrgue this matter here. I want to meet Pst Chris one on one and talk to him. He got it wrong!!!!
Adaamma u ar one of those girls who think they no so mich. u hav studied the bible intoto encourage yet u didnt mention any verse where masturbation is condemned. yet i do not support it
WHO SO EVER LOVE INSTRUCTION,LOVE KNOWLEDGE
BUT HE WHO HATE CORRECTION
IS STUPID*PROVERB 12 vs 1*
pst chris WHY NOT YOU BE CORRECTED?
The simplest definition of sin is ‘to him who knowest what to do and fails to do’ its a sin!
Pastor Adeboye does not attack people even when he’s correcting error. Sensationalism broadcasting has got you all pitted against one-another. Global news wants to sell. QED.
My dear writers, you all should be careful of what you post, clear study of the word of God gives you an insight into God knowledge. So pls stop send word at the men of God, if you dont assept what they say then let dose that do follow, is as simple as that. I tell you.
d bible make u 2 understed dt my pple re destryd 4 lack of knwledge.let b wise here both ned 2 b correctd.
lεɑ̤̥̈̊§ξ let us not get this own thing mixed up.pastor Adeboye never attacks people,he only makes correction.Don’t allow the media to
Please let us not get this own thing mixed up.pastor Adeboye does not attack people bt gives correction.so please correcting another fellow pastor is not a sin.Masturbation is a sin just like fornication.Simple.only d media want us to comment on their discussion.so don’t speak against any man O̶̷̩̥̊͡Ƒ God.Ŧђɑ̤̥̈̊п̥̥̲̣̣̣k you
MOST OF u are daft spiritually, socially and physically masturbation is a sin, it is fornication, because it has to do with lustful thinking and imagination and the bible says that ‘if you look at a woman lustfully or imagine it in ur heart you have committed adultery with her.
Am a Muslim, When I realised that masturbation is not good I prayed to God and I stopped. Mastubation is a sin to your self and God because it can help you. To those r talking about understaning and english I guess they lack wisdom.
Salam Aleykum
Peace unto you
maybe he practices it, you always defend a sin you commit and dont feel guilty for.
U got a point …Man!!!
Masturbation is a product of a spiritual deranged thought! It is immoral, horrible, demonic and hellish.
There is a greater tendency to adjust to the blackness of the darkness when one stays in it for too long. Therefore, not feeling a sinful act to be a sin has not and can not remove it from the list of visa requirements to hell. MASTURBATION like fornication, adultery, lesbianism, incest and the likes is a manifestation of demonically oppressed soul! Avoid it like plagues. God bless you, amen.
Dare Sam, please be very careful at what you say or write about a very anointed prophet of God like Pst Adeboye so as not to put your destiny in chains. Even if you don’t like his comment, please do not undermine God’s anointed. The same goes for every minister. Anyone can make mistake, but if that person is called of God and pursuing God’s purpose on the earth, it is not advisable to wash your mouth on them because it may grieve the heart of God. Prophets are also human elements so they are prone to errors.
Stay blessed everyone.
Masturbation is nt sin and to d fact that it is nt doesn’t mean that it is! God never mentioned masturbation in d bible! In d case of Onan he did nt masturbate d bible said He withdrew his loins and His simen droped on d Earth! So God killed Him 4 nt giving His brother’s wife a child! Nt masturbation” in rev 18 vs 20 says don’t add and take 4rm God’s word if u do u’ll b cursed! If masturbation is nt in d bible and u guys r saying it is then u Have all sinned! It is nt sin bcos God never called it sin! If God never talked abt it Who r u 2 do so! I think adeboyé messed up sorry to say!
And in acts chater 10 read down God warned peter nt to condemn what He(GOD) has nt condemned! So if God never condemned morover talk abt anything who r we 2 do so?? Smoking is nt in d bible, drinking is in d bible bt yet God did nt call drinking sin! Bt drinking is unclean y didn’t God call it sin? Nt all uncleaness is sin bt every sin is unclean! Guys better b careful d way u guys r going abt this issue! If God never called masturbation sin, then it isn’t! Don’t Call sin wt God does nt call sin!
Emma…..Wake up.
A sin is any vice, it doesn’t need to be listed in the Bible. you might as well say Yahoo Yahoo is not a sin, though cheating and swindling is. or feel justified to walk around town with your head high up after shooting some innocent guy with an AK-47 and feeling could about it just because you feel the bible said’ He that kills with the sword…, shall die by the sword’ at least you didn’t use a sword….so you’re fine….. You need to understand the concept of sin, then you will understand that there is a plethora of un-biblical sins, like sniffing coke….e.t.c
@Emma,u say masturbation isnt a sin?u are too foolish.read revelations 21:8,Galatians 5:19. You r on ur way to hell.
Who r u 2 judge any body? B careful!
Listen everyone here. I don’t think, masturbation is a sin. Reason is to refered to wat paul the apostle state in the bible when they came to him asking bout, if sm habit are sins. Which goes particular issues. He reply them by telling, if u find anyone amongs you that ‘cannot get hold’ of his body. Ask him to get married. I think doing this will create longer solution to the case of masturbation. If u don’t masturbate, u wil easily get into decieving young ladies lieing to them that u love them. After commiting sexual act with them on many occasion, u find a way of excussing them and go for another act. Pastor chris stated it right. Once u get married u will overcome it anytime u feel like doing it. U av ur opposite partner just close to you to share it. And by doing this masturbation will become and history. Manything may result somany pple into the act. So the question goes to victim wat bring u into it. Paul said if u know u cannot get hold of ur body go and get marry. Thats the lasting solution
Dare u need help……am actually careful wat i say wen it comes 2 men of God. for God said touch not my anointed n do my prophet no harm…but if Pastor Chris said dat den dia is a problem.. d bible says: ur body is d temple of God” n u say its our body n has nothing 2 do wit God? wow…God will give us all understanding… d problem is, dis will lead alot of young pple astray..
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pastor chris is very correct
Sex is God’s invention. He is the mastermind behind it—and His creation is worth far more to Him than it is to us. This beautiful expression of love was created out of His own heart, as a gift to be experienced between a husband and wife. It is only in marriage that this manifestation of intimacy can be fully enjoyed in the depth for which it was created.
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and the sexually immoral. Hebrews 13:4 (NIV)
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Hebrews 13:4 (KJV).
The more beautiful and unique something is (like sexual intercourse), the more power it holds over our lives, either for good or bad influence. That is why it is so easy for the devil to corrupt the most precious of God’s gifts. When we become more in love with the gifts than the One who endowed them, the things that were designed to bless us begin to destroy us instead. Yes, God cares about what we do with our bodies, in public or in private. He doesn’t want us to abuse ourselves in any way.
In fact, an older definition of masturbation is “self-abuse.” Although more modern dictionaries may no longer carry this definition, they are still linked together under self-abuse:
Self-abuse, noun
1. Abuse of oneself or one’s abilities.
2. Masturbation.
1 Corinthians 6:18 says that unlawful sexual relations defile our own bodies: “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.”1. Psychic effects. Masturbation has a tendency to isolate its captives psychologically and socially. In masturbation, the person is focused on self-alone even though he or she usually is fantasizing about someone else at the same time.
2. Emotional deprivation. It is impossible for the one who is practicing this habit to experience the full extent of sex emotions. Therefore, in short-circuiting the emotions one can easily be removed from the world of reality.
3. Damaged sensibility. The habit of masturbation has a tendency in numbing the mechanism of the sexual organs if practiced excessively. This lessens the sensibility and thus detracts from normal sexual relations of married life.
4. Self-gratification. The emotional background of self-gratification is not the least bit healthy and usually militates against the home, wife and family because it is focused only on self.
5. Control of the mind. Along with the act of masturbation comes the fantasy of the mind. When practiced often, a pattern or cycle seems to become established within the individual’s mind. Thus, perversion has a tendency to control the mind and this in turn initiates the act. The real danger lies in the guilt that increases as the individual dwells in this world of fantasy. I don’t believe the answer to sin is to condemn the person who is sinning this writes them off looks down on them when in truth we all sin whether by commission or ommission but sin must not be tolerated or minimised and that is the danger here. By stating that masturbation is just a habit it this minimises the seriousness of it. Many who indulge in this use pornography and this becomes a negative addiction and unless we recognise that danger of this we become like the world and say nothing is wrong with it it’s natural and even state that masturbation is healthy. I am sure many have heard this argument but it is deception to think that we cannot live without sex and that we will be repressed; many who condone this have this belief. masturbation is sin, the word is not used in the bible but neither is smoking or drugs but we know they are harmful the Bible clearly reminds us that our ohysical bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost what we eat what we watch what we hear and what we do all impact our spirit.
non of the clergy ever told u that masturbation is good the media just published to sell and get people opinion. Mind u d bible never permit u to judge anyone most especially His anointed. PLEASE don’t allow the media make u sin against God, be mindful of wat u say abt people.PASTOR CHRIS said” it is not a sin against God,” emphasizing that as a result of this belief that it is a sin, Satan uses it to oppress people of God, “making them feel ineffective and inefficient in the things of God.” WHILE other pastors also said it is a sin. So y are u guys battling over nothing and begin to commite sins with ur comment that will affect ur future.
PASTOR ADEBOYE DID NOT “ATTACK| PASTOR CHRIS. the media is a master at manipulating words and people.
Please”masturbation is a sin against God and against your body cos your body is the temple of holy spirit,therèfore keep it HOLY. Please!,don’t be carried away by the wind of doctrine.
i will want to believe we all are christain,y don’t we ask d creator our father.wil a son ask 4 a fish and be given a snake.or 4 bread and be given a stone?.and ye shall know the truth and it shall set you free. he is the God of truth.this is not a small issue.lifes are as stake.
OUR LORD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST Of Nazareth Said In Proverb 4 Vs 7(Wisdom Is The Principal Thing,Therefore,Get Wisdom And In All Thy Gettings Get Understands).This Is And End Time,When Things That Does Not Take Place Comes To Take Place,We Know That We Are In The Perilious Time When Things Has Change From It’s Normal State To Another Thing.Why Will Pastor Chris Say Such A Thing That Is Disgusting And devilic,satanic,stupid,To The Wild World.If He Says masturbation Is Not A sin,Then Why Did OUR LORD ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD Condemn sodom and gommorah.He Would Have Taken A Stick Of Cigarette And Tell His Pastors To Smoke Allongside Him At The Pulpit In The Presence Of The Congregation.Exodus 20 Vs 17.So Sex Is Only For The Married,That Is Only The Plan Of OUR LORD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST Of Nazareth For His People Which Is When They Are One And Man And The Woman Has No Right Over Their Body Against Each Other.So,masturbation,lazbianism,homosexualism and all sort of sodomic practices are all against The Wills Of OUR LORD ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD For Man.Mathew 6 Vs 33,Proverb 12 Vs 1.Amen.
hian!!!!! this google tho, they put a very attractive heading so that ppl will read uhn, wen i saw theword attack i clicked immediately……as far as i amn cncrnd its nt an attack, its the plain fact. masturbation is a horrible sin
for those who are saying Pastor Chris did not say it is a good habit, read it well. He said masturbation isn’t a sin that it is just a habit like smoking and stuff. what Pst. Adeboye did wasnt an attack, he just corrected the notion that masturbation is a sin cos it really is….an truthfully even when pastor Adeboye is correcting people, he doesnt do it in a way that it will look like he is attacking the person…………the plain truth is masturbation is a sin and it is also dangerous to the health, if in doubt, ask ur doctor
The statement was an x-ray of his mind & holy spirit was a divine light illuminating the real Chris.God wl help his church.
The statement was an x-ray of his mind & holy spirit was a divine light illuminating the real Chris.God wl help his church.
Simple its a sin
it is amazin wot sm of us say abat issues we can seek God face for its clarification.if we think it is not in the bible,y dont u ask God abat His position abat it in all sincerity.i tel u he giv an answer:God will help us
this is one of the signs of the end time false teacher/preacher. i quite acquiesce to the fact that the bible says we should test all spirit to know if they of God or not, so also i acceded also to the visible fact that the bible is clear about what it said in the book of 1 Timothy 3:1 so every prophecies need to come to reality so this one of them. nigerians and the world at large pls dont forget the fact the sooner or later the taking off of the saints (children of God, born again) are u ready/fit for the race or event that will take off very very very soon. so repent and work toward getting to heaven.
Pastor Chris further threw more light on this subject in his Church. He said that if u actually have to look at a woman lustfully or think about a woman lustfully to achieve masturbation, then in ur heart, u have sinned. But note that anyone can masturbate without lust for a man or woman. I belive many of u comdeming it either masturbate or once masturbated; and while u were practicing it, u were filled with lust for another woman. U belive everyone does it as u do and u therefore condenm it because of ur good conscience. Note that love is the commandment for the new testament. Every is alway against love(Be it stealing, fornication, lies, etc). Where do u group masturbation (without vain imagination)?
Sin in the new testament is all about NOT having love for God and Man. Read Matt 22:36-40 for more light on the subject. If u don’t. Love God and Man, u are damned. Every christian has the ability to live in love for God and man for the bible says that the Love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holyghost. Belive the scriptures and live a life of love for God and Man and u won’t have a problem with sin.
You want the truth? You want something right to believe in? YOU WANT TO GET TO HEAVEN?
The Kingdom of God suffereth violence and THE VIOLENT TAKE IT BY FORCE.
Christians seek comfort these days. If you are in your spiritual comfort-zone; doing the will of the flesh, you won’t make it to heaven, I’m sorry.
Masturbation is a sin.
Past.Adeboye and Past.Chris are great blessings to us and none of them has wished to mislead us, the truth is that most of us look for faults from these men of God. Now,be swift to hear and slow to speak… Say nothing against God’s anionted that you may live longer. God bles u
I like your comment Frank.you are a peace maker.the media know how to manipulate people.Pastor Chris was only trying to let the person that asked the question know(that answer was not meant for everybody) that the same way smoking,drunkeness and even lying is a habit is the same as masturbation . It is not good to condemn somebody that masturbates and exonerate your self as a smoker.he was only tring to counsel that one’s christian life shoudnt stop bcs the person masturbates.the person can stop masturbation and continue instead of condenming himsef and probably backslides which is what the devil wants.Pastor Chris has a gift of higher revealation.let us not always jump at judging men Of God.God hates it.
you guys should leave pastor chris alone..he said his opinion about masturbation and people including men of God had been attacking him..abi dont we live in a country where there is right of freedom of speech…if you think its a sin,dont do it….if you think its not a sin,do it……if for example i masturbate,its my body not yours…so MIND YOUR BUSINESS
For God so love the world that he gave his only begotten son, for all have sinned and gone short of the glory of God.
Why are you guys promoting evil plans of the devil the enemy of Gods children. Where is your Gods given wisdom, can’t you see or understand that this dedicated men of God are actually saying the same thing?
When pastor Chris said is a habit, he said if you want to stop it replace it with a habit. It means something better than that ,it could be to get married, or grab your bible and start reading when the urge comes or burst into singing, look for another good habit that will take your mind off. Practice makes perfect. Smokers replace with something until they are finally quite smoking, drunkards do the same and so other habits. So if Adeboye said is a sin , it means repentance is required from the person involved, if pastor Chris said is a habit that hurts the person not God , he is also saying that the person need to replace it with adaptive behavior to stop hurting himself.
Most of us have sinned in this case through our comments, so we are going to hell with the masturbators? Since they are sinners and must go to hell for sin is sin no matter what kind of sin.
When Jesus asked the perfect to first cast his stone and no perfect person was found to do that, does it mean that Jesus justified the act?. When pastor Chris said is a habit, he never justify it to be acceptable rather he said if you view it as a sin, it gives devil legal ground to stop the fire in you, but as a habit that hurts the person’s body, you feel the pain not God feeling the pain but you and the remedy is to practice to replace that habit with better habit that leads to deliverance so you can function in your given ministry without guilt. He is always careful in his ministry not to condemn but to build, support and encourage.
This is what Jesus requires from us to build, support and encourage instead of condemning. If you are conversant with Apostle Paul messages, you will see Pastor Chris as Apostle Paul, a motivator that will want you to get to know your place in Christ by looking beyond whatever that wants to hinder you. For the battle is not yours but God when God sees that you are desperate to win the battle, he God takes over. So both men of God are right only that the other was harsh by saying that masturbators will go to hell. It means that we all will go to hell for nobody is perfect.
Job 22 vs2 “Can a person’s actions be of any benefit to God? Can even a wise person be helpful to him? Is it any pleasure to the Almighty if you are righteous? Will it be any gain to him if you were perfect? Is it because of your relevance for him that he accuses and judges you? NOT AT ALL! (Application study bible new living Translation)
Can a man be profitable unto God NO; he that is wise may be profitable unto himself. King James Version.
I pray for spiritual understanding for all us in Jesus name.
maybe, “Kissing” your wife in the mouth is not a sin as long as I did not consider it so and your matchet does not end up in my throat.
I have been masturbating and pornographing since my teenage years which even lead me to peep @ naked women who are bathing even my family members. My dear friends in christ, it is satanic and making up ur mind cant even deliver you 4rm it. I know d truth and even preach d word of God, but dis has imprisoned 4 years til now, i nid serious deliverance and restoration 4rm dis evil spirit and demons dat has possed me. Pls pray 4 me i cant afford to preach and go to hell. God bles u al and b careful wit men of God to avoid Gods wrath. Thanks
if u really need deliverance from masturbation and pornograopghy, contact me via my mail, but please make sure you and sincere and really made up ur mind to stop dis satanic practice…. topsinade@gmail.com
Lets call a spade a spade and stop biting about the bush. SIN is SIN. Act of righteousness is act of righteousness.
Even animals obey the law of reproduction by males meeting with females.
Masturbation is worst than animal propensity and immoral.
God created Eve for Adam and NOT Adam for Adam.
We are to learn from men of God and NOT worship them. Our final standard is the BIBLE, which is the inspiration of God. Some responses here in support of the person in question reveal conscious and blind worship of man in the name of “Rhema” and knowledge…
My advice to Christ Embassy members is that they should learn from Pastor Chris and NOT worship him. He is a human being and NOT A GOD, hence he is also prone to mistakes like other humans.
I have also listened to over 300 messages given by the person in question.
MASTURBATION IS A SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
regards, and safe journey to where you wish yourself.
This is real arguement…well am not interested in the game of critising men of God..Daddy Adeboye has said it is “everything” it is both sinful and habitual…if you are smoking it is because you develop it from your mind…sinful and bad habit,if you are stealing it is because you have imbibe it in your character…sinful and bad habit,if you are masturbating it would affect you spiritually and pschologically….sinful and bad habit…Now dont be carried away by the headline..Daddy Adeboye “did not attack” pastor Chris…a good pastor does not attack his fellowmen because they are called together in the same business of edifying God’s people..Lets as a christian learn to endorse their teachings and incoporate them into our lives..pastor Chris said..it was not only a sin but also a habit..Daddy Adeboye said it was everything..meaning it can affect you spiritually not only that it comes from your human spirit to develop in your human behaviour..that’s all
Question is: When is sin sin? When is adultery adultery?When is fornication fornication? shall I say when you having sex with a woman then you are committing adultery? Certainly not. It’s when you are having sex with a woman/man outside of marriage. Is eating bread wrong? Certainly not. Eating stollen bread is wrong, but what’s really wrong is the stealing and not the eating. Masturbation is not wrong and not sin, what is sin is the process that leads to musturbation and that’s the point that the man of God pastor Christ has been trying to drive across. If wrong thoughts are leading you to masturbation, deal with them and stop them then you will find out that masturbation is not an issue just like having sex is not an issue. What’s an issue is how you get to the end result. If it’s impossible to masturbate without lust, still it does make it wrong. What’s wrong is the lust and not the masturbation. We ride in cars that are probably designed for evil, but that doesn’t make the car evil, the motive for making it is what’s evil. The point by the pastor is that don’t be guilty that you masturbated rather be guilty that you lusted. Don’t lie, there is no scripture that categorically points at masturbation in the bible. I have never seen or heard any penalty physically for practicing masturbation. Eating can not be stopped. Even when your mouth or aesophegus is not functioning , they will feed you through pipes. Stealing food can be stopped, though. Having sex can not be stopped. Lust can be stopped.
God help us ooo!!!!
Once upon a time, Pastor Chris church was going under and he came up with the idea that ladies can dress as they wish to church and immediately his church came back to life and other churches that were going under also join him to encourage ladies to dress as they widh and they also experienced similar back to life. The thing is these churches initially condemned him but when they saw the results they all quickly joined. I am very sure that the same will happen on this issue also. Let us SIDON AND LOOK!!!!!!!
At this juncture,i am not judging but i will lyk 2 share the lyt in d darkness. When God created d Man, He created him in His[GOD] lykness. Bt wen d man sin, he deviate,refract and go beyond 360′ degree in God glory. He nau bcum anoda nature i.e adamic nature. So wat does dis entails,dis means dat masturbation has bcum Adamic nature,but dis shud be clear to us dat wat is the relationship wit God nature and Adamic nature. Wat we re calling habit is nt in God agenda. God has neva called us to be impure bt to b Holy and pure. Nau the book of 1john 1:5 “dis is d mssg we av heard 4rm him nd declare 2 u: GOD is light: in him there is no darkness at all” nau 2ru dis scripture dat God is lyt. Dat mean everytin abt God is plainly and clear.; Hence darkness is Adamic nature which u called habit. Also did we know dat b4 u masturbate u must av have tinks of sexual tins which is darkness. Peter say do nt engage in the tins dat fight against our soul.therefore let us realise dat wen u re being control by flesh,u still belong to Adamic nature. BUT WONDERFULY JESUS HAS CUM TO DESTROW THE WORK OF DEVIL,ADAMIC NATURE,SINFUL ACT ND OTHER DARKNESS WORKS. Let us purify ourselves with d blood of Jesus.also Masturbation which u called Habit[ADAM NATURE] belongs to full darkness, let us b realistic dat the spirit of deceitfulness has rapidly take control of the world,it takes the grace of God to stand against all forces of hell.
The problem is that some of you guys do not understand what MASTURBATION is. If you know what it is, then, you are saying that all of you are going to hell. If YOU or your WIFE has ever touched your genitals, knowingly or inadvertently and your nerve endings ever send any tiny message of pleasure to your brain, and you enjoyed it for a second, then, YOU HAVE MASTURBATED. If you as a man have the absolutely NORMAL nocturnal erection, and you wake up to pee in the night/early morning, you walk up to your toilet and hold you penis. If your feel any iota of pleasure by holding your penis while peeing, you have MASTURBATED. Ignorance is not good, get educated about the full meaning of masturbation! The guy was just saying that there are certain indulgences that are not sins, but if they become a habit, can impair your life (socially and productivity wise). Read God’s word clearly, ask God to teach you Himself and KNOW the differences between the LAW (old testament) and GRACE (new testament). Not even Pastor Adeboye keeps the laws in the old testament! Our self-righteousness are like FILTHY RAGS before God, Then, God sent His Son, and He became our Righteousness, not of WORKS, lest any man should BOAST!
Well 2 me sin is sin stop helping d devil may God help us all just make sure U knw d d truth 2 make U free(Ilove pastor Adeboye Ilove pastor Oyakhilome, I hate sin my bible is my best friend)Thanks
My brother/sister don’t get your point justified by inputing biological or natural phenominone over Masturbation. Masturbation is a deliberate action done out of urge, pees from one’s penis or whatever you call it, is a sign of maturity in the sexual garment of an individual not a deliberate act my dear.
Lev 15:16
may God help us all, all those who are against pastor Chris i pray you dnt miss heaven,i think heaven will be full of surprises…
will you be proud to tell someone that you masturbate? if no, then why? no one is proud of sin.
The antidote for masturbation and porn addiction is ‘abstinence at all cost.’Abstain from all appearance of evil-1 Thess 5:22. Secondly,’eat’ the WORD-John 17:17.I’ve been there before! Now to the point,1 Cor 6:12;1 Cor 10:23:’All things are lawful unto me ,but all things are not expedient(beneficial,profitable).’Masturbation is not profitable.
Well…..we need not say negative things about men of God. We also must be conscious of the fact that they are human as well…..masturbation is a serious bondage tho tbh…..masturbation means trying to satisfy sexual desires by oneself and the bible has made us understand that sex is for a married man and his wife. God will help us all….that’s my own prayer
N i forgot to add….no one attacked anyone….gezzzz….wen i saw the headline……gosh…….these ppl noe how to get a prsn’s attention
And jesus said unto the jews-his ,low -in- understanding audience,how many of you convict me of sin?if i tell you the truth,(saint JOHN gospel).
u see such is life. very soon they will tell us that if i pick my hand gun to kill someone is not a sin. GOD help us all in JESUS name amen.
fornication is a sin!what did u tink of dat made u masturbate!u hav furnicated through ur mind already!i won’t lie 2 u,i do it b4 bt i nw knw its a sin
Listen guys, if pastor’s truely understand justification ,some wrong teachings like christian commitin sin and go to hell ,will not be preach ,read de book of romans , galatians wen st paul we are saved by faith in christ jesus not by the deed of the law
the truth is that am speechless, i dont even know what to say, but what i understand is that, just as it is hard to convince a muslim to be a christian or a christian to be a muslim, so it will be hard for people to accept a new knowledge into their brain, cos it will throw away the old one they have, its just like finally knowing that the nursery rhyme” sandalili, sandalili” is really” standard living, standard living”, its hard to believe something we dont know before, talkmore of the one will have already accepted, its so hard to change it.
Onan in the Bible ( Gen 38:9) was killed by God because of the thought in his heart. Its not because of not releasing semen into Tamar. Onan did not want his late brothers wife to have a child out of him (Onan). He felt that any child that comes from Tamah belongs to his late elder brother since Tamar was his wife. God killed him because of this reasonin in his heart. Bible says: “…and Onan knew that the seed should not be his…” That’s why On an spilled it on the floor after going into Tamar. How does this represent masturbation? Some are saying” Bible recommends death. Where did they get that from? I don’t know if masturbation is sin or not. But I know that Gen 38:9 has not connections to masturbation. One thing I know about Gods word is that we are condemned by our minds not basically our acts. Jesus set an adulterous woman free from her accusers….why? Because they accused her falsely?- No! He asked the accusers a question that made them to look into their hearts. When they did that, they left shamefully. its a heart. thing, not an act thing.
pastor chris never encourage anyone to masturbate. neither does he support it. he was making a Good point that you need to listen to. But if your mind is blocked from the truth, you will never understand Anything and you will keep arguing unnecessary. during Jesus day, Jesus was accuse, abused, hated too for his teachings. Jesus was misunderstood just as pastor Chris is been misunderstood. they say Jesus teaching was too hard, who can listen to this. read john 6 to the end.
they pick stone and wanted to stone Jesus. john 8:39
But for what?
because of his teaching.
they have never heard someone talk like that before.
so therefore. When someone his speaking, listen fully to the whole message to find out the point he’s trying to make. you can pick a phrase from everything he said and start judging him as if you are the one that send him.
who are you to judge another man’s servant. it is before his master he either stand or fall. Romans 14:4
Jesus has already said it all in john 15:20 and 21
The healing delivery word of God tells us BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SINS ARE NOT COUNTED. WE ARE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD AND WE ALWAYS RIGHT BEFORE HIM. MASTURBATION IS NOT A SIN. IT CAN NEVER BE A SIN. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GRACE ORACLE MINISTER SAID AND IT IS SETTLED IN JESUS NAME.
Pastor Adeboye is operating under LAW while Pastor Chris is operating under Grace, We are in the dispensation of grace where all our strength don’t matter any longer. Jesus solve all our problems. You can not get rid of an habit by your strength because by strength shall no man prevail. I understand pastor Christ is speaking from grace perspective knowing no one is good except God, when the spirit that raise Jesus Christ from dead comes fully on us we are completely change, change is progressive. It’s a gradual process. The spirit is perfect the day you get born again. The more you meditate on the scripture to renew you mind the more your body is brought into subjection to the authority of the spirit of God. Therefore, if you are still struggling with a bad habit (sin) you will some days let go as soon as the truth of the word of God get into you and turn on the light thereby erasing lies. You can’t give the Devil upper hand to make you feel you are not perfect. the woman caught in the very act of adultery was told to go and sin no more, and if as time go on by the strength og Christ she will OVERCOME THE FLESH that she is whole. Pastor Christ’s perspective is more accurate to the grace of God. NIGERIA MEGA-CHURCH PASTORS SHOULD STOP DISQUALIFYING GOD’S CHILDREN!!!!!! We were all initially fall short of the glory of God but God established us on His own righteousness without any self efforts from us.
I believe in God that justify the ungodly (romans 4.5). If I do wrong like every other person, I’ll not run away or hide from God like Adam . I’ll confess my wrong to God because he has invited me to do so. he sees my heart that I’m trying my best to do what his right But I’m not doing it to please him. to please him I must trust him and walk by faith in him (Hebrew 11.6). it doesn’t matter who or what is against me, it is before my God I’m innocent or guilty.
Every sexual satisfaction one can get outside marriage is sin, and talking of masturbation being a habit and not a sin is very wrong because every bad habit is a sin
It is important that in these last days the Christian must have a close walk with God and stick to HIS word. If you do this , nothing shall deceive you. Study and meditate on God`s word. Pray and ask HIM regularly for revelation in these last days. Pray for a spirit of discernment. It is most needed these times. Christianity is supposed to be simple and straight forwad.there is just a lot of teachings and truly speaking, most confuse us. Jesus came and died for u and me that we may have life in abundance. Go out into the streets and preach that message out of love back with the power of the Holy spirit. Theology has causes to some extent considerable damage. People want to put God into their minds instead of the reverse thing to happen. Make a covenant with God and tell Him u want to serve HIM. He will show exactly what to do. You don’t need to belong to a million – member church. You can win many to the LORD. On this issue concerning pastor Chris, for those that are in doubts, Ask God for a revelation and pray that the HOLY SPIRIT should indeed guide you to all truths. TRUST ME THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TAKE CONTROL OF YOU.GO OUT AND WIN SOULS FOR JESUS!!!
Amen
PASTOR ADEBOYE, U’VE DELIVERED THE MESSAGE. HE WHO WILL HEAR AND OBEY IT SHALL BE SAVED, FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEYED DUST THE SAND UNDER YOUR FOOT FOR A WITNESS AND LEAVE.
jes lyk john said in revelations abt d number of d beast”wisdom is needed”. while I ll nva seek to condemn any1 cos we c in parts n prophesy in part here’s my tots based on biblical understanding.
Anytin dt does stem frm faith is sin so we ve a long list of sin both d ones listed n unlisted. ..
so if masturbation ll take u to hell so ll un belief n doubt whic begs d question… wht really did Jesus die for?
all d religious folks ll go blue in d face wiv my utterance bur I ll still say it… sin has being dealt with!!! everytin including masturbation has bn dealt with so dts nt God’s problem anymre…y wld u fink paul wld tell us nt to yield our members to sin cos he understood dt we aint under any codemnation when we become saved…
Som ll squint their faces cos dey feel im giving pple license to do whatever dey lyk bur hear mi out whn u truly understand how much u ve bn forgiven , u ll luv much n evry other good works follows ur holiness bkoms automatic. time ll nt let mi go indepth bur as som1 dt was a chronic masturbator whic I can clearly say it was a habit d devil used against me thru d tinz I had feed my eyes whn I was in d world n getting married didn’t solve my prob until I understood dt dis habit/sin has alredy bn defeated by my christ n it had no power over anymre n even whn I find myslf in it im still nt under any condemnation. whot I fot 4 over 8yrs was gone in an instant as soon as d light of God’s word hit me.. bn clean now almst 1 year now wiv absolutely no desire to do it again . wld I ve made heaven while I was still masturbating as a christian ….Emphatically yes bur wld I ve enjoyed D freedom christ won 4 me to makes me enjoy my Christian race nope cos I wld ve felt lyk a failure n easy prey to d devil evrytym I did it. Jesus’s blood was sufficient sacrifice 4 urr sins n victorious Christian live. ur sins ve bn dealt. make God’s word ur compass nt adeboye or oyakhilome.
christ alone!!!!
My Pastor Adeboye, you have indeed delivered the message, he who have ears let him hear. Heaven will bear you witness. Masturbation is purely a sin. God deliver his people from all this fake pastors who are preaching to populate the kingdom of darkness.At the last day, Judgement starts from God’s house. the Pastors. A Pastor that makes his members believe that fornication is not a sin and that they are living under the righteousness of Christ. That Christ had paid for it all. Forgeting that Paul ask if we should continue in sin for grace to abid? God forbid
They are both men of God and they have weak and strong christians following then. I wish somebody prayed for more grace because whether the masturbation issue is true or not, I can see some souls being lost here
ALL OF YOU WHO ARE AGIANST PASTOR CHRIS, YOU MUST REPENT AND PRAY!
IF YOU ARE TRULY BORN OF GOD; BORN OF THE WORD, YOU WOULD PREFER TO PLEASE GOD BY PRAYING FOR A CHANGE FOR WHAT IS NOT PLEASING, BUT NOT SHOWCASING LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!
IS THAT ALL YOU KNOW ABOUT PASTOR CHRIS? LISTEN TO HIS TAPE CALLED ” CONCEPT OF SIN”
REMEMBER, CHRISTIANITY IS NOT ABOUTCRITICISM , BUT DEMONSTRATING OF LOVE FOR GOD, BY STANDING IN FOR JESUS IN PRAYER FOR A CHANGE! NOT CRITICISM FOR A CHANGE!
MAY THE LORD GRANT YOU INSIGHT AND REVELATION INTO REALITIES, IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.
Good day all who are concerned here.
It is lengthy but i would want you to read to the end.
The first thing i will say is that we should be very careful about what we say to our fellow believers especially those who lead the people of God.
Firstly before we comment on anything said by another person we have to consider it carefully using the word of God and not with our own understanding.
Rom 12:3 says we should not think of ourselves more highly than we ought to think.
What i want us to understand is that the fact that a man of God or a person with a certain gift like prophecy gets something wrong doesn’t mean the person is fake as some have commented because when we consider people like Samson and Saul for instance we see that Samson went contrary to what God wanted by taking Delilah on himself and all that yet it was God who had chosen him. That is why in Judges 16:23-30 when Samson called on God to strenghthen him again God did. In the case of Saul too when he pursued David( Which wasn’t what God wanted) and David got the chance to kill him he said he wouldn’t touch someone anointed by God.
This happens because sometimes a person may come into the flesh so much such that in the case of say a prophet he’ll say something out of his own mind or what he thinks might happen.
In the case of something like this a person might misunderstand something and that doesn’t make him an agent of satan.
I bet all of us might at a point in time misunderstood something about the Bible and even taught others about it and later got to know what it really means.
1 John 2:22 ” who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son” KJV
So the only situation we can outrightly say that a person is of the devil without considering it is what 1John 2:22 says.
The others have to be discerned.
In Acts 16:16-18, Paul cast out the evil spirits in the damsel that followed them many days after she started following them. So we ask ourselves “Why did Paul not cast them out the very moment she started following them. Is it that he had not discerned yet? It is for us to think about
One thing that should be at the back of our minds too is that we correct in love and not with insults and condescending statements.
To those of us who are saying that the fact that the Bible doesn’t say explicitly that masturbation is a sin means one cannot say explicitly that its sin, i don’t think the bible has to say everything before we know it is sin or not. The Holy Spirit is there to teach us.
And even things that are not bad in their own self become bad when it causes others to sin.
Rom 14:21 “It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak” KJV
To determine whether masturbation is a sin or not, there are some questions for us to answer.
Firstly what leads to masturbation? Is it out of thinking about something pure? Is it uncontrolled sexual desire? Is it through watching porn? What?
Secondly can we say boldly when we masturbate that we are doing it unto the lord? Everything that leads to masturbation?
Unless of course it is out thinking about God, evangelism, wanting to pray, worshiping God, or something other than what is mentioned above or related…
1 Cor 10:31 ” Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God”.
Phi 4:8 ” Finally, brethren,
whatsoever things are true, whatsoever
things are honest,whatsoever
things are just, whatsoever
things are pure, whatsoever
things are lovely, whatsoever things
are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
The rest is on you to decide.
I HAVE NOT HEARD PASTOR CHRIS SAYING THAT MYSELF AND HOW HE SAID IT SO I CAN”T CONCLUDE ON WHAT HE SAID.
THE SAME GOES TO PASTOR ADEBOYE
WHAT I WILL END WITH IS THAT WE SHOULD BEWARE OF THE MEDIA.
Masturbation is a sin done to the body of christ. Read 1corinthian6 the temple of God.
masturbation is a capital offense before god whoso ever practicing it is going to hell fire u dont sin against the holy spirit and go free ur body is the temple of the holy spirit past chris is a preacher u need to please ignore is an erroneous past one day past chris will give is life to jesus so please pray for him
Everyone has a point, didn’t know nigerians were this intelligent, am confused and don’t even know which to believe, the man of God has a point but to have said its not a sin before God is wrong because masturbation always involves lust, yes it can be a habit but not in the mind of an adult, it is lust driven and so its a sin, its really complicated but if he says its not a sin before God then he got this one wrong. That doesn’t mean he’s evil or devil sent, we need to understand that we are humans and not judge people all the time as if we are perfect. Greater men of God in the bible have made worse mistakes. Men o God can’t be perfect, the devil will always come knocking looking for that little mistake or opportunity to use. I have a huge respect for pst chris so I won’t judge him based on this one, maybe he understands the bible a little too much. No names calling, make your point and stop acting perfect. Humans are prone to mistakes, period
Please don’t talk down on any of the men of God is my advice. The sin of Onan does not have anything to do with masturbation! please get this straight. The practice of masturbation must have started even in the Bible days but was never mentioned in the Bible. Both pastors didn’t encourage the habit but admonishes that it is stoppable. Bad thought including erotic thought can come to your mind at any time even when reading the Bible.Does this make reading the Bible sin?Certainly no!You are only admonished to discard such thought….
men. Evrything that is not in Gods law is a sin.we should do the write things and not the wrong things brethren.masturbation is part of gay and xxx videos as u all knws that. So every practice u learn execept from the holy book of God is a sin. So be carefull how u think and act without thinking. Always read the word of God for more wisdom. Thanks
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“Masturbation is about you and your body. God is not offended by it, He is only offended by any habit that takes hold of your mind and if this takes hold of your mind and dominates your body, God is offended.”
I AM NOT A FAN OF PST CHRIS BUT, BY THIS QUOTE ABOVE, HE MEANT THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR MIND NOT TO ALLOW THE THOUGHT OF IT OR DOING IT AT ALL BE IN YOUR MIND WHICH IS THE ORIGIN OF HUMAN THOUGHT OF ACTION.
Lets not kill ourselves over statements of the press who will always want to sell paper for money with any influential person in the society.
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HE WHO WILL BE HOLY, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.
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masturbation is a sin bcos i am a victim of dat habit, there is a feelin of gult afta masturbatin….i really crave to stp dis habit i nid counselin
this is a mist serious act masturbation is an usual act but it need to be stop by any believer if the gospel of Christ. many practice it including some men of God it must be put to an end
The Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but of righteousness, peace and joy in the holyghost. If you masturbate, you don’t have peace neither do you feel the joy in the holyghost. Masturbation takes virtues away from you and reduce you to no body. Please flee every appearance of evil.
c’est dommage que les pasteurs qui sont censés nous conduire nous égarent. La masturbation est belle et bien un péché et ceux qui continuent de la pratiquer risque d’aller en enfer. c’est bien de continuer à le faire parce que le pasteur Chris a dit que c’est permis. mais pastor Chris n’est pas Dieu et je vous le dit le jour du jugement tu ne sera pas excusé juste parceque c’est ton pasteur qui t’a autoriser a commettre un péché donné alors chers freres et soeur en Christ faites attention
Sin is a mata of the mind… Pastor Chris is wise here.. he r add a encouraged the person with that issue. Of mustarbation to see it as an attitude wich is subject to elimination
.. daz a wise minister… using a simple jack to lift a fully loaded long vehicle.. tnx
I think what pastor chris saying was not to make a right masturbation habit. the sin of thought is most important than the masturbation. what onan did, was not related with the masturbation….it’s a different thing that we must to separated. but in the torah of moses you can found if in your ‘action’ do some ejaculated from yours it is sin. so what do you think if you want to making love with your wife but your penis was not wake up….what do you do ? you must do action like masturbation but not to ejaculated just to make ‘wake up’ it is not sin. it’s natural did. so we must to stopped to judge the pastor because in the bible said if we can not ‘ touch the annointed guy’. just listen the word but not they did. ( if they wrong)
Your Daddy G.O is not God, he can be ur daddy for all I care, he’s not mine, but I respect him a lot.. All I have to say is, if drinking of beer or some kind of alcohol is a sin, then I will equally agree with you that masturbation is also a sin.. Those things are dirty, they are unclean, but does not mean they are sins.. Masturbation can be therapeutic, incase you don’t know.
I have followe pastor Chris for 19yrs, that man is annoited, he does not talk anyhow. I have checked and review is teaching many times, that guy is loaded on the inside, and if you check, many of his followers are made, they are not dependant.. Pastor Chris is the only man of God that have trained men and women to think like people that have been made to prosper and withstand anything. Not some t like some so called men of God that’s stays one side only prophesying and the people say amen in the pages of facebook and go back with their problems still remain thesame.. Don’t talk about Pastor Chris like that, you really don’t know him.
Pastor chris is one of the greatest men of God that has walked on the face of the earth, take it or leave it.
WHAT? That maturbation is not a sin? Abomination in the vineyard of God. An act that brings about lustful thoughts is not a sin? Since when? This is a lie from hell. By the way I want to thank you for your comments especially the issue of subtle codes. Many people have gone, are going and might still go not because of ignorance or whatsoever but because of false and wrong doctrines they were led into. Sorry to say this but Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD speaks and writes in encrypted language wrong doctrines which are ignorantly accepted by millions of complacent yes men in his church and without. His cipher text needs to be decrypted by the spirit of discernment. We need this gift from God urgently in this end time days. The battle cry is getting louder everyday and Satan is getting stronger and using every method to get more candidates into his kingdom. A “man of God” says masturbation is not a problem? Can you believe it, a “man…”!OH GOD OF HEAVEN! A ……….. shepherd (put the adjective you think suits him; I prefer wicked) leading a large flock to the slaughter (Hell) is not fare. Shame on you Sir :-!
PS: Please accept my apologies for the description.
May God have mercy on his children. Why waste your time on kingdom assignments instead of fulfilling kingdom assignments? Masturbation is a subtle ticket to hell using an underground train.
I almost forgot, forward your FAQ List to ghislainage@gmail.com.
When Pst Chris encouraged abortion after rape, I shook my head in confusion but this one is a different issue. His messages are too crazy to be believed and received. I am going immediately to delete all of his messages/songs I have in my laptop and later on LoveWorldSAT from my television. I don’t want to have prior connection with crazy things that can mar one’s faith and cause him to compromise. Things are happening ooooh! Wonders shall never end!!!
i just want to write this to help many.
pst chris was right when he said that it is a tool that the devil is holding against many. masturbation is a very deadly habit. we may not call it sin since the bible does not state that, but also know that it brings about many deadly acts and the bible says that if your hand will cause you to sin, you should throw it away. my story, i used to masturbate a lot, in my dreams i knew i had a gift and calling. till one night, i saw myself masturbating in a revelation, on the wall i saw a clock and a timer that records how may times i did it. then the angel of the lord spoke to me that i have a mission on earth for God. but that act is preventing me and will hinder me, and that it is recorded and i will be answerable to it. am not saying this to make you feel guilty more, but we all know that 70% of world population masturbates,
many feel guilty afterwards (satan accusing you)
many fantasize while doing it
many get addicted (it controls their mind)
many are committed to watching porn (a great sin)
as a child, i came to think that my dad always get a bad news anytime i masturbate.
the truth here is that masturbation can be a sin to others but not to others. paul talked about knowledge, eating foods from idols, he advised that though you have the knowledge and can eat foods for idols (it’s not a sin to you) you should avoid it for your brothers sake. truthfully 99% of us lack that knowlege, ie we practise it in a very wrong way, feeling guilty, allowing it to control us (all this effects are uncontrolable) why dont we all avoid it, whether it’s a sin or not and search for heaven first. it’s not easy to stop, but you can. once it condemns you it will always do. for those who want to believe it is not a sin because others say so and yet feel guilty should learn how to live their own lives, stop it because those others can not help you. since it is very hard to stop, many deceives themselves that it is not sin. but an easy way to stop it is by believing it is sin and not have second thoughts. no one has that knowledge paul speak of, majority takes ignorance as knowledge, though it’s hard, please distaste it, you too can stop it. it is a very bad habit,
Jesus’ love for all lets everyone know that He didn’t come to count men’s sins against them, so when He said he who looked upon a woman to lust after her, had sinned already in his heart; He said so to let those who accuse others of adultery wen caught in the very act, to cease from doing so because they too must have committed the same sin of adultery in their mind: and by so doing would be also subject to condemnation by death under the same law they claim to so uphold.
Rightly said by one: Masturbation in marriage is no sin, but outs side of marriage is sin.I.e thinking of either wife or husband while doing so,especially when they might have travelled for a long journey&having not seen themselves for a longtime;instead of allowing flesh to lead them into the temptation of formicating.
All have to understand that, anything done outside of its God given purpose is sin&when done for the purposes of God, it isn’t sin,whatever it may be:
For it is not what enters a man that defileth him, but what proceedeth out of him that defiles him.
If I may add to what Pastor Chris has said in all boldness to say, I here say that any lesbian regardless of their number, who come together to practise intermingling with each other outside of a marriage to a single man, whatever they do is sin; but as many of them who perform the same act of lesbianism or whatever it may be know as, within a single marriage to a single man, they all with the man have not sinned: For Adultery in truth is when a man looks to lust after another man’s wife or lies with any non-virgin woman anywhere, because the first man a virgin-girl lies with is her husband in truth.
So therefore know this henceforth: if man looks at a virgin-girl of marriage age, to lust after her, he had not commited adulteryd;but if he looks upon a non-vigin woman or married woman, to lust after her, he has sinned the sin of adultery.
you guys should just stop all ths rubbish. they are both saying thesame thing
The Bible says”hold to what you belive about these issues, keep them you are God. A man does not judge himself by the lifestyle he endoreses”, (Romans 14: 22 VOICE)
Hmmmm YOU ALL MAKE ME LAUGH ,when it is boldly written and stated by our LORD JESUS CHRIST (whosoever sees a woman and lust after her in his heart as already commited fornication or adultery with her) so please cant we all just commenting anything we like just think about this statement verywell and ask ourself? That IF A PERSON MASTURBATES i mean when masturbating IS IT NOT A PICTURE AND THINKINGS OF ANOTHER OPOSSITE SEX either his wife or another PERSON THAT MAKES THE MASTURBATION POSSIBLE? yess of cox it is, so y saying masturbation is not a sin for GOD SAKE? Well anyway its end time and many things are happening And for sure so many unexpected myserious think will still happen either we like or not. When you masturbate or if you are a victim Please study your life well and u will see that the HOLYSPIRIT IN YOU wunt work to the fulness in you cox you wunt be able to flow with him. He may even live you if care is not taken and you still continue with it. you may love God and still be involve in his activities and it may seems or look asive God is still atwork in you but i tell you gradualyy little by lite GOD WILL DEPART FROM YOU AND YOU WILL BECOME EMPTY. so many are decieving themselves this days honestly, what a great pity that HELL WILL BE FILLED UP THAN HEAVEN. This pains me alot. So many types of christians out there in the world today WITH DEFFERENT MENTALITIES. What a pity.
masturbation IS SIN and thats the blunt truth Take it or leave it.
I MUST SAY THIS cox i know God as forgiven me for sure. I was once a victim but thank GOD HE DELIVERD ME BY HIS GRACE. He just helped me stoped it by myself just like that. Even i myself knew its grace. I was into it for years.
Gloryyy to God noww honestly. So i av been there before so i know how it is and how one feels, i know the level or remn you can get to with God in the spiritual remn when you are a masturbator, and i know the rem i am now cox am free. GOD IS NOT HAPPY WITH A MASTURBATOR so if you are a victime pls fleee now.
Deal with it now or it keeps on dealing with you and even may eventualy take you to hell.
Am speaking from experience. I’ve been there b4 so i know everything about it. The feeling and etc. Runn from it now. it is a sin.
we pastors need serious prayer ooooooooo nor be joke, they can be posses by satan if they are frustrated.
I did not listen to Pastor Chris. I like Pastor Chris’ teachings very well but if it is true he said this, then I am sorry to say he got it all wrong this time. A Christian’s body is NOT his/her own body. It is the Temple of in which dwells the Holy Spirit and so anything done against the Temple of the Holy Spirit is punishable by God. If speaking against the Holy Spirit is an unpardonable sin how much more defiling His Temple?
Every body ve d right to rebuke, nevertheless nobody has permition to judge,will re to correct nt to engage in critic else society might turn to belligerent con each another which ought nt to be so,i advice will no d clout of mastubation also encourage never to wrote badly of any one simply bcs of wht u scan in d press,tell folk wht they need to no and stop accussing,it lead no were
To me pastor chris is very right. can you tell me what is the meaning of sin?
I was right in that service. Pastor Chris NEVER said Masturbating is NOT a SIN. But The emphasis should be more on the thoughts, the mind rather than the act. When you change ur thoughts, your mindset, you stop the act as you replace it with another consistent with your new way of thinking. This apples to any other habit. That change can only occur by the word, which is our cleanser, not by mere prayers of forgiveness from sin.
Instead of jumping into dirty conclusions nd mkin eternally dangerous comments on the controversial topics, y not pay more attention to other areas to which you have sound comprehension of.
It’s unwise to criticize men of God. Pastor Chris and Pastor Adeboye are all anointed. Enjoy a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit and be spiritually minded and you will not have issues with habits. Matters like this is too high for you.
I am addicted to the act and I av tried all to stop but couldn’t. what’s d way out or can someone proffer solution because my conscience convince me its a sin against God. in fact this act kills my spiritual life as I hardly read the word and just say snapshot prayers which is unusual of me before been trapped in the mess.
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They have been exposed, please dont fall into the trap of any of this the fake pastors. Only Jesus can deliver anyone from Masturbation. I uncontrollably engaged in it for almost 10 years. But now , its become a history. Thank God. so I know what I’m saying . follow the link below from season 1 to 4 May God bless you. Amen http://www.eternityrace.com/2014/08/990-years-in-kingdom-of-darkness.html?m=1
All you unwise and devoid of understanding..
LUST IS A SIN, masturbation is not.
When married couples engage in masturbative acts, shall we then say they are committing a sin?
If a man masturbates with the image of his wife in mind, so its now a sin?
Wait, let’s talk.
We know that the instinctive way of making love to a woman is to lie with her…
But today, COUPLES are doing things like doggy style, giving heads and blowjobs, wives are wearing sexy lingerie to seduce their own husbands, and couples are saying sweet dirty things to themselves, exchange naked pictures between themselves..
So they are committing sin right ? IF SO, THE WHOLE WORLD IS COMMITTING SIN THEN…
But whats there to worry, Jesus Died for sins.
WISE UP PEEPS…
When you masturbate to the image of someone who is not your wife, then its a sin, cos that is LUST
and that’s what the man of God was trying to communicate.
I can say that “Masturbation” is a sin that defiles the body (1 cor 3:16) and comes out from the heart and enters the mind (mat 15:18-19 ) it also comes by looking at a picture or a woman and lust over it or her in your heart, then wen u act it (masturbation) then it becomes adultery (mat 5:28) #Masturbation is very bad read these scriptures (Rom 1:27-32)
= My Conclusion =
* Do not be overcomed by evil but overcome evil with good (Rom 12:21).
* You hav 2 present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to od, which z your reasonable services. (Rom 12:1) *Note here that masturbating is also a service.
* Put to death your members which ar on earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion & evil desire (Col 3:5)
* Dont live according to wat your flesh tells u (Rom 8:13)
* Here The Bible Says I Beg You to abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul (1 Pet 2:11)
* The Bible Here Says Marry To Run Away From Sexual Immorality (1 Cor 7:2)
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firstly i will start by saying an HABIT is a routine of behavior that is repeated regularly and tends to occur subconsciously,a settled or regular tendency or practice, especially one that is hard to give up, examples
It’s so hard to stop smoking when it’s been a lifelong habit.
Get into the habit of tuning your guitar every day before you practise.
Picking your nose is a revolting habit.
Members of the public were asked about their shopping habits.
We’ve fallen into the habit of getting up late on Saturday mornings.
habits can either of two forms; (1) good habit (2) bad habit
MASTURBATION is a very bab habit and its a sin to GOD ALMIGHTY.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmh,too many things to say but lemme just say this, men of God are not to be judged or disrespected, there are elects of God, men of God are humans, they are bound to make mistakes either by theological means or philosophical, let’s not quickly forget that men of God also grow as they move on, just like you eat to grow your physical body, they also eat the word of God to grow, that statement was made by pastor Chris donkey years back, now, he has more insights and revelations to God’s word, don’t be quick to judge and don’t forget there’s been loggerheads between the duo, so it’s easy for the opposition to say anything slanderous but please, we’re all humans and are bound to make mistakes
Avoid what you know is wrong and be close to God so you can easily acquire knowledge from Him directly. Matt 7:1 jugde not that ye be not judge
Adeboye talks tomuch, go back to Pstor Chris teaching. I think u need attention. I
Haaa Almighty God forgive me, am using this opportunity to confess that have fall into this victim. Please dear brothers and sisters pray to God to have mercy on me.
THE WAY TO HELL IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMODATE A DRAGON WE ALL KNOW MARSTURBATING IS A SIN ONLY A FOOL WOULD SAY IS AN HABIT AND NOT A SIN NO WONDER JESUS SAID BY THY FRUIT WE SHALL KNOW THEM (FAKE AND TRUE PASTORS). IF I SHOULD ASK, YOU CAN ONLY MARSTUBATE BY EITHER WATCHING PORN FILMS OR IMAGES AND D BIBLE IS AGAINST FORNICATION IN REFERENCE TO QUEEN OF FORNICATION IN REVELATION EVEN SINNERS KNOW IS A SIN. AM NOT A PREACHER BUT A SINNER AND I STILL KNOW IS NOT A HABIT BUT A SIN. WHO AM I TO JUDGE IN REFERENCE TO MATTEW 7:7 ONLY God Can Judge Him Wherther He is Among His Sheep Or Not But Still Only God Judge.But Pls Stop Teaching Wrong Knowledge Cause Can Give Sinners A Greater Rate In Sinning
When we read scriptures from genesis to revelation the word murstabation is not mention at all in the bible tells us about certain thing which makes someone to be unclean this is releated to this one, Murstabation it comes from the mind and paul said renew your mind its not everything we see is difined some they develope into sin but the man of God if he meant that it leads to sin he knew what he was talking about some masseges from teachers are very difficult to understand and senstive you need to ask God before saying much.
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According to my suggestions, all of us has been given the ability to recognized sin unless we want to deceive our self. If some pastors call it sin they know what they are saying because for some people who masturbate ( they imagine evil things like falling into lust (lust of flesh) which is sin or watching pornography films or photos which are sin because they carry lust (lust of the eyes) or lead to adultery or fornication which are lust of flesh and eyes). If some pastors also said is not a sin I also agree but it is risky because you must not fall to this real sin which are ( they imagine evil things like falling into lust (lust of flesh) which is sin or watching pornography films or photos which are sin because they carry lust (lust of the eyes) or lead to adultery or fornication which are lust of flesh and eyes) but if you can masturbate without all this sin, no problem with masturbation; also the habit of masturbation won’t control you at all nor over throne your heart and masturbation won’t be sin to God at all but can you masturbate without applying all this sins?. If No I will urge you to leave it and run away from that habit so that you won’t go to hell. God bless you all do the right thing that we please God. For bible says “those are born of God will never fall in to lust of flesh, lust of eyes and pride of life”. But be born of God, walk in spirit of God not in flesh which leads to sins. The bible says “we can’t be in sin and says grace should abound”. The bible also says “because we aren’t under law but grace and we should sin, God forbid”. Accept the gospel (the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ) and be save, and also walk unto righteousness so that you may be in God’s family. Thank you. Bye . Arowoiya Emmanuel. Call me for more advise 07088985305 and 07018248636. God bless you all.
Different people with different opinions you dont have to judge anyone
pastor chris as made a good point so as the other pastors it’s left 4 u to get your own divine understanding about this
it is an habit
a bad habit because u wld be lured into watching pornography to satisfy your sexual urge.
when u discover its an habit u then feel guilty dat masturbating is wrong
The bible says be ye prefect
being prefect does not include u masturbating or being addicted to things you knw is wrong.
There is nothing wrong and nothing totally right about what he said. Please let’s not be judgemental,instead we should ask God for directions. Because sometimes things about the word of God might seem totally wrong or absurd to us but that doesn’t matter in God’s sight. I mean, this is someone anointed we’re talking about. That’s the way he understands it! Please let’someone not look at it like the biggest mistake in history. That’s his own belief, just follow what you think is right!!!